{"id":25436,"date":"2016-07-18T09:02:02","date_gmt":"2016-07-18T07:02:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/?p=25436"},"modified":"2016-07-19T05:35:03","modified_gmt":"2016-07-19T03:35:03","slug":"erste-details-zu-amds-zen-prozessoren","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/25436-erste-details-zu-amds-zen-prozessoren\/","title":{"rendered":"Erste Details zu AMDs Zen-Prozessoren"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Der Nut\u00adzer \u201c<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Pola\u00adris\u201d hat im <a href=\"http:\/\/forums.anandtech.com\/showthread.php?p=38363321#post38363321\">Anand\u00adtech-Forum<\/a> ers\u00adte genaue\u00adre Spe\u00adzi\u00adfi\u00adka\u00adtio\u00adnen zu AMDs kom\u00admen\u00adden Zen-basier\u00adten Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren genannt. Zwar nennt er auch AM4-Ver\u00adsio\u00adnen, es k\u00f6nn\u00adte sich den\u00adnoch um Opte\u00adron-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren han\u00addeln. Denk\u00adbar w\u00e4ren daher auch h\u00f6her getak\u00adte\u00adte Consumer-Chips.<\/p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"66\">Ker\u00adne \/ Threads<\/td>\n<td width=\"66\">Cache (<span class=\"caps\">L2<\/span> \/ <span class=\"caps\">L3<\/span>) [<span class=\"caps\">MB<\/span>]<\/td>\n<td width=\"57\">Sockel<\/td>\n<td width=\"47\"><span class=\"caps\">TDP<\/span> [W]<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">Ruhe\u00adtakt [MHz]<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">Grund\u00adtakt [MHz]<\/td>\n<td width=\"85\">Tur\u00adbo\u00adtakt (alle Ker\u00adne) [MHz]<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">Tur\u00adbo\u00adtakt (max) [MHz]<\/td>\n<td width=\"132\">Idle-Leis\u00adtungs\u00adauf\u00adnah\u00adme [W]<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"66\">4 \/&nbsp;8<\/td>\n<td width=\"66\">2 \/&nbsp;8<\/td>\n<td width=\"57\"><span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"47\">65<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">550<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">2800<\/td>\n<td width=\"85\">3050<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">3200<\/td>\n<td width=\"132\">2,5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"66\">8 \/&nbsp;16<\/td>\n<td width=\"66\">4 \/&nbsp;16<\/td>\n<td width=\"57\"><span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"47\">95<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">550<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">2800<\/td>\n<td width=\"85\">3050<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">3200<\/td>\n<td width=\"132\">5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"66\">24 \/&nbsp;48<\/td>\n<td width=\"66\">8 \/&nbsp;32<\/td>\n<td width=\"57\"><span class=\"caps\">SP3<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"47\">150<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">400<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td width=\"85\">2900<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td width=\"132\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"66\">32 \/&nbsp;64<\/td>\n<td width=\"66\">16 \/&nbsp;64<\/td>\n<td width=\"57\"><span class=\"caps\">SP3<\/span><\/td>\n<td width=\"47\">180<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">400<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td width=\"85\">2750<\/td>\n<td width=\"76\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td width=\"132\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Der Autor der Behaup\u00adtun\u00adgen ist vor allem von dem aus\u00adge\u00adzeich\u00adne\u00adten Ver\u00adbrauch der Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren im Leer\u00adlauf ange\u00adtan. Soll\u00adten sich die 2,5 bis 5 Watt best\u00e4\u00adti\u00adgen, d\u00fcrf\u00adte dies vor allem aus den Erfah\u00adrun\u00adgen AMDs im Bereich der APUs gewon\u00adnen sein. Mit Car\u00adri\u00adzo schaff\u00adte es <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> mit diver\u00adsen tech\u00adni\u00adschen Knif\u00adfen, zumin\u00addest im Idle kon\u00adkur\u00adrenz\u00adf\u00e4\u00adhig zu blei\u00adben, obwohl man auf einen fast dop\u00adpelt so brei\u00adten Fer\u00adti\u00adgungs\u00adpro\u00adzess zur\u00fcck\u00adgrei\u00adfen muss. Neben <span class=\"caps\">SP3<\/span> arbei\u00adtet <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> wohl auch noch an einem SP4-Packa\u00adge, das ver\u00admut\u00adlich sp\u00e4\u00adter auf den Markt kom\u00admen wird. Aktu\u00adell ist man noch bei Revi\u00adsi\u00adon <span class=\"caps\">A0<\/span>, wobei nicht klar ist, ob noch wei\u00adte\u00adre Step\u00adpings bis zur Seri\u00aden\u00adfer\u00adti\u00adgung n\u00f6tig sind. Zumin\u00addest soll noch ein Sechs\u00adker\u00adner erscheinen.<\/p>\n<p>Bez\u00fcg\u00adlich der Leis\u00adtungs\u00adf\u00e4\u00adhig\u00adkeit soll sich <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Zen mit Intels Has\u00adwell-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren mes\u00adsen k\u00f6n\u00adnen, wobei hier nicht klar ist, in wel\u00adchen Dis\u00adzi\u00adpli\u00adnen. Ver\u00admut\u00adlich geht es um All\u00adtags\u00adan\u00adwen\u00addun\u00adgen, denn wie der Autor erw\u00e4hnt, soll die <span class=\"caps\">AVX-<\/span> und FMA-Leis\u00adtung im Ver\u00adgleich zu der der Bull\u00addo\u00adzer-CPUs nicht berau\u00adschend sein. Also Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren f\u00fcr heu\u00adte und nicht f\u00fcr mor\u00adgen. Das Kon\u00adzept k\u00f6nn\u00adte tat\u00ads\u00e4ch\u00adlich auf\u00adge\u00adhen, denn AVX-Anwen\u00addun\u00adgen sind rar und das von <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> bis\u00adher unter\u00adst\u00fctz\u00adte <span class=\"caps\">FMA4<\/span> abseits eini\u00adger BOINC-Pro\u00adjek\u00adte qua\u00adsi nicht vor\u00adhan\u00adden. Bis sich die Befehls\u00adsatz\u00ader\u00adwei\u00adte\u00adrun\u00adgen rund um <span class=\"caps\">AVX<\/span>, <span class=\"caps\">AVX2<\/span> und Co durch\u00adset\u00adzen, d\u00fcrf\u00adten schon neue Hard\u00adware\u00adge\u00adne\u00adra\u00adtio\u00adnen ins Haus stehen.<\/p>\n<p>Vie\u00adlen Dank an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/vbulletin\/members\/18008-Dresdenboy\"><strong>Dres\u00adden\u00adboy<\/strong><\/a> f\u00fcr den <a href=\"http:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/vbulletin\/threads\/421433-AMD-Zen-14nm-8-Kerne-95W-TDP-DDR4?p=5105862&amp;viewfull=1#post5105862\">Hin\u00adweis<\/a> zu die\u00adser&nbsp;News.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Der Nut\u00adzer \u201c<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Pola\u00adris\u201d hat im Anand\u00adtech-Forum ers\u00adte genaue\u00adre Spe\u00adzi\u00adfi\u00adka\u00adtio\u00adnen zu AMDs kom\u00admen\u00adden Zen-basier\u00adte Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren genannt. Zwar nennt er auch AM4-Ver\u00adsio\u00adnen, es k\u00f6nn\u00adte sich den\u00adnoch um Opte\u00adron-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren han\u00addeln. Denk\u00adbar w\u00e4ren daher auch h\u00f6her getak\u00adte\u00adte Con\u00adsu\u00admer-Chips. 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