{"id":32080,"date":"2017-05-26T08:55:56","date_gmt":"2017-05-26T06:55:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/?p=32080"},"modified":"2017-05-26T17:16:02","modified_gmt":"2017-05-26T15:16:02","slug":"holprige-am4-markteinfuehrung-amd-schiesst-zurueck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/32080-holprige-am4-markteinfuehrung-amd-schiesst-zurueck\/","title":{"rendered":"Holprige AM4-Markteinf\u00fchrung: AMD<\/span> schie\u00dft zur\u00fcck"},"content":{"rendered":"

Kurz nach der Markt\u00adein\u00adf\u00fch\u00adrung des AMD<\/span> Ryzen, der zwar in Sachen Leis\u00adtung \u00fcber\u00adzeu\u00adgen konn\u00adte, im Umfeld auf Platt\u00adform\u00adebe\u00adne anfangs jedoch noch vie\u00adle Bau\u00adstel\u00adlen (DRAM-Kom\u00adpa\u00adti\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adt\u00e4t, feh\u00adlen\u00adde Fea\u00adtures im BIOS<\/span>, uvm.) offen\u00adbar\u00adte, hat\u00adte ein Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adler, der nament\u00adlich nicht genannt wer\u00adden woll\u00adte, im Rah\u00admen eines Inter\u00adviews zum Rund\u00adum\u00adschlag gegen AMD<\/span><\/a> aus\u00adge\u00adholt: AMD<\/span> habe ver\u00adlernt, wie man eine neue CPU-Archi\u00adtek\u00adtur ein\u00adf\u00fchrt, die Kom\u00admu\u00adni\u00adka\u00adti\u00adon und Sup\u00adport von Sei\u00adten AMDs sei man\u00adgel\u00adhaft und ins\u00adge\u00adsamt sei das Timing f\u00fcr die Markt\u00adein\u00adf\u00fch\u00adrung schlecht gewe\u00adsen. Damals hat\u00adte sich AMD<\/span> diplo\u00adma\u00adtisch zu den Vor\u00adw\u00fcr\u00adfen ge\u00e4u\u00dfert.<\/p>\n

Nun jedoch hat AMD<\/span> in Per\u00adson von James Pri\u00ador, Pro\u00adduct Mana\u00adger f\u00fcr Ryzen, in einem Inter\u00adview mit dem For\u00adbes Maga\u00adzi\u00adne<\/a> den Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adlern den Schwar\u00adzen Peter ins\u00adbe\u00adson\u00adde\u00adre bez\u00fcg\u00adlich der sen\u00adsi\u00adblen Spei\u00adcher\u00adkom\u00adpa\u00adti\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adt\u00e4t von Ryzen-Sys\u00adte\u00admen zugeschoben:<\/p>\n

here are defi\u00adni\u00adte\u00adly some mis\u00admat\u00adched expec\u00adta\u00adti\u00adons the\u00adre. For exam\u00adp\u00adle, if you look at a cur\u00adrent bud\u00adget Intel board, few have any sup\u00adport for XMP<\/span>. You usual\u00adly can\u2019t go abo\u00adve the 2,400MHz, but we\u2019re offe\u00adring sup\u00adport for fas\u00adter memo\u00adry speeds fur\u00adther down the stack. To add a bit of con\u00adfu\u00adsi\u00adon to the mix at the moment, it\u2019s real\u00adly only the B350<\/span> chip\u00adset mother\u00adboards that we\u2019re see\u00ading this hit and miss memo\u00adry sup\u00adport. This is down to the design of the board and how much time the manu\u00adfac\u00adtu\u00adrer has inves\u00adted into that board in main\u00adtai\u00adning sup\u00adport for high memo\u00adry speeds.<\/strong> We are fin\u00adding most B350<\/span> boards can hit 2,933MHz wit\u00adhout any issues and some can do 3,200MHz. It\u2019s that last litt\u00adle bit of spe\u00adcial magic sau\u00adce \u2013 the num\u00adber of lay\u00aders in the board and how much trace cop\u00adper they put into it and the time they invest in the BIOS<\/span>. Ulti\u00adm\u00adate\u00adly, there\u2019s bet\u00adter sup\u00adport for fas\u00adter memo\u00adry with a B350<\/span> mother\u00adboard com\u00adpared to a simi\u00adlar\u00adly-pri\u00adced Intel B250<\/span> motherboard.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Dem\u00adnach sieht AMD<\/span> die Pro\u00adble\u00adme in Sachen Spei\u00adcher\u00adkom\u00adpa\u00adti\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adt\u00e4t nicht bei Ryzen, son\u00addern bei den Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adlern, wie die\u00adse ihre Boards aus\u00adge\u00adlegt h\u00e4t\u00adten, wie viel Auf\u00adwand sie betrie\u00adben h\u00e4t\u00adten bei der Ent\u00adwick\u00adlung. Etwas selt\u00adsam mutet jedoch die Aus\u00adsa\u00adge an, ledig\u00adlich die Main\u00adboards mit B350-Chip\u00adsatz sei\u00aden von der Spei\u00adcher\u00adpro\u00adble\u00adma\u00adtik betrof\u00adfen, schlie\u00df\u00adlich waren zur Markt\u00adein\u00adf\u00fch\u00adrung ins\u00adbe\u00adson\u00adde\u00adre die teu\u00adren X370-Boards in den Redak\u00adtio\u00adnen unter\u00adwegs, wo sich die Tes\u00adter mit zicki\u00adgem Spei\u00adcher her\u00adum\u00ad\u00e4r\u00adgern mussten.<\/p>\n

Pri\u00ador mag im Kern der Sache recht haben, son\u00adder\u00adlich hilf\u00adreich f\u00fcr die Zusam\u00admen\u00adar\u00adbeit zwi\u00adschen CPU-<\/span> und Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adler d\u00fcrf\u00adte die Aus\u00adsa\u00adge jedoch nicht sein. So wur\u00adden gegen\u00ad\u00fcber PCGa\u00admesN bereits Stim\u00admen aus dem Umfeld der Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adler laut<\/a>, die sich unge\u00adrecht behan\u00addelt f\u00fch\u00adlen. Ande\u00adre r\u00e4um\u00adten dage\u00adgen ein, dass in der Tat das Board-Lay\u00adout \u00fcber die Spei\u00adcher\u00adkom\u00adpa\u00adti\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adt\u00e4t (mit-)entscheidet:<\/p>\n

the bot\u00adtom line is that with more lay\u00aders the memo\u00adry lay\u00adout is bet\u00adter. The B350<\/span> usual\u00adly is a four lay\u00ader board, and the high end are six lay\u00aders. Some memo\u00adry will work on an X370<\/span> six lay\u00ader board, but not on a B350<\/span> four lay\u00ader board.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Die Wahr\u00adheit d\u00fcrf\u00adte irgend\u00adwo in der Mit\u00adte lie\u00adgen. Gut m\u00f6g\u00adlich, dass die teu\u00adren X370-Boards mit mehr Lay\u00adern eine sta\u00adbi\u00adle\u00adre Basis bil\u00adden f\u00fcr hohe Spei\u00adcher\u00adfre\u00adquen\u00adzen. Ande\u00adrer\u00adseits sieht man an den auf dem Markt befind\u00adli\u00adchen B350-Boards, dass die BIOS-Updates seit der Markt\u00adein\u00adf\u00fch\u00adrung vie\u00adle Pro\u00adble\u00adme ent\u00adsch\u00e4rft<\/a> haben, was eher nicht dar\u00adauf schlie\u00ad\u00dfen l\u00e4sst, dass es (nur) ein Lay\u00adout-Pro\u00adblem ist.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Kurz nach der Markt\u00adein\u00adf\u00fch\u00adrung des AMD<\/span> Ryzen hat\u00adte ein Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adler, der nament\u00adlich nicht genannt wer\u00adden woll\u00adte, im Rah\u00admen eines Inter\u00adviews zum Rund\u00adum\u00adschlag gegen AMD<\/span> aus\u00adge\u00adholt und aus dem N\u00e4h\u00adk\u00e4st\u00adchen geplau\u00addert, was alles schief\u00adge\u00adlau\u00adfen war aus eige\u00adner Sicht. AMD<\/span> dage\u00adgen sieht die Pro\u00adble\u00adme ins\u00adbe\u00adson\u00adde\u00adre in Sachen Spei\u00adcher\u00adkom\u00adpa\u00adti\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adt\u00e4t nicht bei Ryzen, son\u00addern bei den Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adlern. (\u2026) Wei\u00adter\u00adle\u00adsen \u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":29295,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,11],"tags":[833,1210,1323],"class_list":["post-32080","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-aktuelles","category-news","tag-am4","tag-ryzen","tag-speicher","entry"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32080","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32080"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32080\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32097,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32080\/revisions\/32097"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/29295"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32080"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32080"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32080"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}