{"id":39291,"date":"2018-07-26T13:46:45","date_gmt":"2018-07-26T11:46:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/?p=39291"},"modified":"2018-07-26T15:07:30","modified_gmt":"2018-07-26T13:07:30","slug":"offiziell-amds-zen-2-wird-bei-tsmc-in-7-nm-gefertigt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/39291-offiziell-amds-zen-2-wird-bei-tsmc-in-7-nm-gefertigt\/","title":{"rendered":"Offiziell: AMDs Zen 2 wird bei <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> in 7 nm gefertigt"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wie bereits <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/39272-amd-quartalszahlen-q2-2018-bestes-ergebnis-seit-jahren\/\">berich\u00adtet<\/a>, hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> heu\u00adte Nacht unse\u00adrer Zeit sei\u00adne Gesch\u00e4fts\u00adzah\u00adlen f\u00fcr das zwei\u00adte Quar\u00adtal 2018 ver\u00ad\u00f6f\u00adfent\u00adlicht, die \u00fcber\u00addurch\u00adschnitt\u00adlich gut aus\u00adge\u00adfal\u00adlen sind. Im Rah\u00admen der zuge\u00adh\u00f6\u00adri\u00adgen Ana\u00adlys\u00adten\u00adkon\u00adfe\u00adrenz hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD-CEO<\/span> Dr. Lisa Su erst\u00admals <a href=\"https:\/\/seekingalpha.com\/article\/4190245-advanced-micro-devices-amd-q2-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">offi\u00adzi\u00adell best\u00e4\u00adtigt<\/a> (ohne Regis\u00adtrie\u00adrungs\u00adzwang sie\u00adhe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcgameshardware.de\/AMD-Zen-Architektur-261795\/News\/AMD-7-nm-CPUs-TSMC-Epyc-Ryzen-1261635\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"caps\">PCGH<\/span><\/a>), dass die kom\u00admen\u00adden Epyc-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren \u201cRome\u201d auf Basis der Zen-2-Archi\u00adtek\u00adtur bei <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> vom Band lau\u00adfen wer\u00adden. Ers\u00adte Mus\u00adter sei\u00aden bereits an Part\u00adner ver\u00adsandt wor\u00adden. Anders als beim Ur-Zen m\u00f6ch\u00adte <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> bei Zen 2 anschei\u00adnend mit der Ser\u00adver-Vari\u00adan\u00adte begin\u00adnen, was auch Sinn macht, da Epyc den Zwi\u00adschen\u00adschritt Zen+ (12 nm) \u00fcber\u00adsprun\u00adgen&nbsp;hat.<\/p>\n<p><\/p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan-1024x513.png\" alt width=\"625\" height=\"313\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-32015\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan-1024x513.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan-300x150.png 300w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan-768x385.png 768w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan-624x312.png 624w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/epyc_rome_milan.png 1276w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\"><\/a><\/center>\n<p>Bis\u00adher war ledig\u00adlich bekannt, dass <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/38155-erste-7-nm-samples-von-amd-laufen-bereits\/\"><span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> die 7\u2011nm-Vari\u00adan\u00adte von Vega bei <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span><\/a> wird fer\u00adti\u00adgen las\u00adsen. Bei den CPU-Designs dage\u00adgen war eigent\u00adlich davon aus\u00adge\u00adgan\u00adgen wor\u00adden, dass <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> den 7\u2011nm-Pro\u00adzess von Glo\u00adbal\u00adFound\u00adries w\u00e4h\u00adlen w\u00fcr\u00adde. Man wol\u00adle von Pro\u00addukt zu Pro\u00addukt ent\u00adschei\u00adden, wel\u00adcher Pro\u00adzess zum Ein\u00adsatz kommt, so <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span>. Jedoch kann man spitz\u00adfin\u00addig hin\u00adter\u00adfra\u00adgen, was <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> mit Pro\u00addukt genau meint \u2013 das fer\u00adti\u00adge AMD-Pro\u00addukt oder das Pro\u00addukt, das <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> beim Fer\u00adti\u00adger bezieht \u2013 denn eigent\u00adlich besteht ein Epyc-Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor ja nur aus meh\u00adre\u00adren Ryzen-Dies. Daher w\u00fcr\u00adde nahe\u00adlie\u00adgen, dass, wenn die Dies f\u00fcr den kom\u00admen\u00adden Epyc \u201cRome\u201d bei <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> gefer\u00adtigt wer\u00adden, es logisch w\u00e4re, auch die Dies f\u00fcr Thre\u00adad\u00adrip\u00adper 3000 \u201cCast\u00adle Peak\u201d und Ryzen 3000 \u201cMatis\u00adse\u201d vom glei\u00adchen Band pur\u00adzeln zu las\u00adsen. Das\u00adsel\u00adbe CPU-Design bei unter\u00adschied\u00adli\u00adchen Fer\u00adti\u00adgern auf\u00adzu\u00adle\u00adgen, ist eigent\u00adlich nicht \u00fcblich, obwohl es schon vor\u00adge\u00adkom\u00admen ist, auch bei&nbsp;<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>War\u00adum sich <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> bei Zen 2 f\u00fcr <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> und gegen Glo\u00adbal\u00adFound\u00adries ent\u00adschie\u00adden hat, wur\u00adde auf der Ver\u00adan\u00adstal\u00adtung nat\u00fcr\u00adlich nicht \u00f6ffent\u00adlich kom\u00admun\u00adziert. Aller\u00addings k\u00f6nn\u00adte eine Rol\u00adle gespielt haben, dass Glo\u00adbal\u00adFound\u00adries wom\u00f6g\u00adlich nicht gen\u00fc\u00adgend Fer\u00adti\u00adgungs\u00adka\u00adpa\u00adzi\u00adt\u00e4\u00adten frei hat, um die erwar\u00adte\u00adte Nach\u00adfra\u00adge nach Zen-2-Pro\u00adduk\u00adten zu stil\u00adlen. Dies hat Dr. Gary Pat\u00adton, Chief Tech\u00adno\u00adlo\u00adgy Offi\u00adcer and Seni\u00ador Vice Pre\u00adsi\u00addent of World\u00adwi\u00adde Rese\u00adarch and Deve\u00adlo\u00adp\u00adment bei Glo\u00adbal\u00adFound\u00adries, j\u00fcngst <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eetimes.com\/document.asp?doc_id=1333326&amp;page_number=2\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">in einem Inter\u00adview<\/a> angedeutet:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Later this year, <span class=\"caps\">GF<\/span> will use immersi\u00adon step\u00adpers to tape out its first 7\u2011nm chip, an <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> pro\u00adces\u00adsor. An <span class=\"caps\">IBM<\/span> pro\u00adces\u00adsor will fol\u00adlow with ASICs coming in 2019, said Patton.<br>\n<span class=\"caps\">GF<\/span> made the size of its 7\u2011nm pit\u00adches and <span class=\"caps\">SRAM<\/span> cells simi\u00adlar to tho\u00adse of <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> to let desi\u00adgners like <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> use both found\u00adries. <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> \u201cwill have more demand than we have capa\u00adci\u00adty, so I have no issues with that,\u201d he said of <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> using the Tai\u00adwan foundry.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"dquo\">\u201c<\/span>Glo\u00adFo\u201d war in der Ver\u00adgan\u00adgen\u00adheit bereits f\u00fcr Ver\u00adz\u00f6\u00adge\u00adrun\u00adgen bei der Markt\u00adein\u00adf\u00fch\u00adrung von AMD-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren ver\u00adant\u00adwort\u00adlich oder hat einen Pro\u00adzess gelie\u00adfert, der nicht kon\u00adkur\u00adrenz\u00adf\u00e4\u00adhig war. So muss\u00adte etwa Llano so lan\u00adge ver\u00adscho\u00adben wer\u00adden, dass <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/35207-amd-sieht-sich-mit-einer-sammelklage-wegen-llano-konfrontiert-update\/\"><span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> des\u00adwe\u00adgen heu\u00adte eine Kla\u00adge am Hals<\/a> hat. Auch der 65-nm-Pro\u00adzess f\u00fcr die letz\u00adten Ath\u00adlon <span class=\"caps\">X2<\/span> und den Phe\u00adnom <span class=\"caps\">X4<\/span> war nicht das Gel\u00adbe vom Ei: zu wenig Takt, zu hoher Strom\u00adver\u00adbrauch. Damals kamen sowohl die super\u00adspar\u00adsa\u00admen SFF-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren mit 35 W, als auch die am h\u00f6chs\u00adten getak\u00adte\u00adten Model\u00adle des Ath\u00adlon 64 <span class=\"caps\">X2<\/span> bis zuletzt im aus\u00adge\u00adreif\u00adten 90-nm-Pro\u00adzess. Aller\u00addings war auch <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> nicht frei von Feh\u00adlern. Die gran\u00addio\u00adse <span class=\"caps\">ATI<\/span> Rade\u00adon <span class=\"caps\">HD<\/span> 5870 war <a href=\"http:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cgi-bin\/newspub\/viewnews.cgi?category=1&amp;id=1258069405\">mona\u00adte\u00adlang so gut wie nicht lie\u00adfer\u00adbar<\/a> auf\u00adgrund von Produktionsschwierigkeiten.<\/p>\n<p>W\u00e4h\u00adrend <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> mit Rome im Plan zu lie\u00adgen scheint, sind von Intel neue inof\u00adfi\u00adzi\u00adel\u00adle Road\u00admaps auf\u00adge\u00adtaucht, die eine Ver\u00adschie\u00adbung der 10-nm-Ser\u00adver-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren \u201cIce Lake <span class=\"caps\">SP<\/span>\u201d tief ins Jahr 2020 hin\u00adein andeuten:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"de\" align=\"center\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">This is real\u00adly bad news. Intel is not expec\u00adting Ice Lake <span class=\"caps\">SP<\/span> until <span class=\"caps\">Q1<\/span>\/2 2020? (Source: Intel\u2019s published pre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adti\u00adon from Chi\u00adna \u201cIntel High Per\u00adfor\u00admance Com\u00adpu\u00adting and Intel\u00adli\u00adgent Com\u00adpu\u00adting\u201d) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/10nm?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#10nm<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/IceLake?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#Ice\u00adLa\u00adke<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/igaFSYby3T\">pic.twitter.com\/igaFSYby3T<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 David Schor (@david_schor) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/david_schor\/status\/1022142835989118977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">25. Juli&nbsp;2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Falls das zutref\u00adfen soll\u00adte, w\u00fcr\u00adde Rome hin\u00adsicht\u00adlich Kern\u00adan\u00adzahl und Fer\u00adti\u00adgung ohne direk\u00adten Gegen\u00adspie\u00adler aus dem Hau\u00adse Intel auf den Markt kommen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wie bereits berich\u00adtet, hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> heu\u00adte Nacht unse\u00adrer Zeit sei\u00adne Gesch\u00e4fts\u00adzah\u00adlen f\u00fcr das zwei\u00adte Quar\u00adtal 2018 ver\u00ad\u00f6f\u00adfent\u00adlicht, die \u00fcber\u00addurch\u00adschnitt\u00adlich gut aus\u00adge\u00adfal\u00adlen sind. Im Rah\u00admen der zuge\u00adh\u00f6\u00adri\u00adgen Ana\u00adlys\u00adten\u00adkon\u00adfe\u00adrenz hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD-CEO<\/span> Dr. Lisa Su erst\u00admals offi\u00adzi\u00adell best\u00e4\u00adtigt, dass die kom\u00admen\u00adden Epyc-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren \u201cRome\u201d auf Basis der Zen-2-Archi\u00adtek\u00adtur bei <span class=\"caps\">TSMC<\/span> vom Band lau\u00adfen wer\u00adden. 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