{"id":47288,"date":"2019-06-04T12:02:23","date_gmt":"2019-06-04T10:02:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/?p=47288"},"modified":"2019-06-04T18:52:29","modified_gmt":"2019-06-04T16:52:29","slug":"doch-kein-pcie-4-0-fuer-am4-mainboards-mit-chipsaetzen-der-generationen-300-400","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/47288-doch-kein-pcie-4-0-fuer-am4-mainboards-mit-chipsaetzen-der-generationen-300-400\/","title":{"rendered":"Doch kein PCIe 4.0 f\u00fcr AM4-Mainboards mit 300-\/400-Chips\u00e4tzen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Eine der wich\u00adtigs\u00adten Neue\u00adrun\u00adgen von AMDs zusam\u00admen mit Ryzen 3000 erschei\u00adnen\u00adder Chip\u00adsatz\u00adfa\u00admi\u00adlie rund um den <span class=\"caps\">X570<\/span> ist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/46989-x570-chipsatz-von-amd-kommt-in-zwei-varianten\/\">die Pre\u00admie\u00adre von <span class=\"caps\">PCI<\/span> Express in der Spe\u00adzi\u00adfi\u00adka\u00adti\u00adon 4.0<\/a>. Zwar stellt der Chip\u00adsatz eini\u00adge PCIe-Lanes zur Ver\u00adf\u00fc\u00adgung, der Gro\u00df\u00adteil der PCIe-Kon\u00adnek\u00adti\u00advi\u00adt\u00e4t wird jedoch vom Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor bereit\u00adge\u00adstellt. Da vie\u00adle Main\u00adboards mit Chip\u00ads\u00e4t\u00adzen der 300er- und 400er-Fami\u00adlie <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/46217-asus-benennt-35-mainboards-mit-ryzen-3000-support\/\">Unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzung f\u00fcr Ryzen 3000 erhal\u00adten sol\u00adlen<\/a>, keim\u00adte Hoff\u00adnung auf, dass auch eini\u00adge \u00e4lte\u00adre Pla\u00adti\u00adnen fit f\u00fcr PCIe 4.0 gemacht wer\u00adden k\u00f6nnten.<\/p>\n<p>Da es f\u00fcr <span class=\"caps\">PCI<\/span> Express 4.0 stren\u00adge\u00adre Vor\u00adga\u00adben in Bezug auf die Signal\u00adwe\u00adge gibt, wur\u00adde erwar\u00adtet, dass nicht alle Main\u00adboards aus den ver\u00adgan\u00adge\u00adnen zwei Jah\u00adren \u00fcber\u00adhaupt in den Genuss die\u00adses Fea\u00adtures kom\u00admen wer\u00adden. Sehr wohl aber ging die Ger\u00fcch\u00adte\u00adk\u00fc\u00adche davon aus, dass ein\u00adzel\u00adne Pla\u00adti\u00adnen per BIOS-Update auch den neu\u00aden Stan\u00addard nut\u00adzen k\u00f6n\u00adnen w\u00fcr\u00adden. Die Her\u00adstel\u00adler der ein\u00adzel\u00adnen Main\u00adboards w\u00e4ren dann f\u00fcr die Unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzung ver\u00adant\u00adwort\u00adlich, indem sie die Funk\u00adti\u00adons\u00adt\u00fcch\u00adtig\u00adkeit eva\u00adlu\u00adie\u00adren und ent\u00adspre\u00adchen\u00adde BIOS-Updates ver\u00ad\u00f6f\u00adfent\u00adli\u00adchen. In eini\u00adgen (Beta-)BIOS-Versionen tauch\u00adten sogar schon Ein\u00adstell\u00adm\u00f6g\u00adlich\u00adkei\u00adten f\u00fcr PCIe 4.0 auf, was die Hoff\u00adnung wei\u00adter n\u00e4hrte.<\/p>\n<p>Nun aber hat Robert Hal\u00adlo\u00adck, sei\u00adnes Zei\u00adchens Seni\u00ador Tech\u00adni\u00adcal Mar\u00adke\u00adting Mana\u00adger von <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span>, in einem <a href=\"https:\/\/old.reddit.com\/r\/Amd\/comments\/buydi6\/amds_robert_hallock_no_pcie_40_support_on_300_and\/epn2c83\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bei\u00adtrag bei Red\u00addit<\/a> PCIe 4.0 auf den Pla\u00adti\u00adnen der bei\u00adden vor\u00adan\u00adge\u00adgan\u00adge\u00adnen Chip\u00adsatz\u00adfa\u00admi\u00adli\u00aden eine Absa\u00adge erteilt.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This is an error we are cor\u00adrec\u00adting. Pre-X570 boards will not sup\u00adport PCIe Gen 4. There\u2019s no gua\u00adran\u00adtee that older mother\u00adboards can relia\u00adbly run the more strin\u00adgent signal\u00ading requi\u00adre\u00adments of Gen4, and we sim\u00adply can\u00adnot have a mix of \u201cyes, no, may\u00adbe\u201d in the mar\u00adket for all the older mother\u00adboards. The poten\u00adti\u00adal for con\u00adfu\u00adsi\u00adon is too&nbsp;high.<\/p>\n<p>When final BIO\u00adSes are released for 3rd Gen Ryzen (<span class=\"caps\">AGESA<\/span> 1000+), Gen4 will not be an opti\u00adon any\u00admo\u00adre. We wish we coul\u00add\u2019\u00adve enab\u00adled this back\u00adwards, but the risk is too&nbsp;great.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Gem\u00e4\u00df der Aus\u00adsa\u00adge m\u00f6ch\u00adte <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> schlicht\u00adweg kein Risi\u00adko ein\u00adge\u00adhen und die Situa\u00adti\u00adon ver\u00admei\u00adden, dass es eine Mischung aus \u201cja\u201d, \u201cnein\u201d und \u201cviel\u00adleicht\u201d bei der Unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzung des Fea\u00adtures gibt, was letzt\u00adend\u00adlich zu Kon\u00adfu\u00adsi\u00adon f\u00fch\u00adren k\u00f6nnte.<\/p>\n<p>Prin\u00adzi\u00adpi\u00adell ist die\u00adser Schach\u00adzug aus Sicht von <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> ver\u00adst\u00e4nd\u00adlich, da eine nicht ein\u00adheit\u00adli\u00adche Linie durch\u00adaus zu Frust beim Kun\u00adden f\u00fch\u00adren kann. Ande\u00adrer\u00adseits kann man dem ent\u00adgeg\u00adnen, dass schon allein die <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/47008-mainboards-mit-amd-x570-chipsatz-nicht-fuer-ryzen-der-ersten-generation\/\">Unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzung der ver\u00adschie\u00adde\u00adnen Ryzen-Gene\u00adra\u00adtio\u00adnen auf den Main\u00adboards der Jah\u00adre 2017 und 2018<\/a> \u00e4hn\u00adlich kom\u00adpli\u00adziert aus\u00adfal\u00adlen kann. Inso\u00adfern ist die Ent\u00adschei\u00addung von <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> zwar durch\u00adaus nach\u00advoll\u00adzieh\u00adbar, f\u00fcr den End\u00adkun\u00adden jedoch sehr schade.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Da ein Gro\u00df\u00adteil der PCIe-Kon\u00adnek\u00adti\u00advi\u00adt\u00e4t der AM4-Platt\u00adform vom Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor bereit\u00adge\u00adstellt wird, ging die Ger\u00fcch\u00adte\u00adk\u00fc\u00adche bis\u00adher davon aus, dass auch eini\u00adge AM4-Haupt\u00adpla\u00adti\u00adnen der Gene\u00adra\u00adtio\u00adnen 2017 und 2018 dank Unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzung f\u00fcr die Ryzen-3000-Fami\u00adlie PCIe 4.0 als Fea\u00adture nut\u00adzen k\u00f6n\u00adnen w\u00fcr\u00adden. Robert Hal\u00adlo\u00adck, Seni\u00ador Tech\u00adni\u00adcal Mar\u00adke\u00adting Mana\u00adger von <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span>, hat die\u00adsen Ger\u00fcch\u00adten nun eine Absa\u00adge erteilt. (\u2026) <a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/47288-doch-kein-pcie-4-0-fuer-am4-mainboards-mit-chipsaetzen-der-generationen-300-400\/\">Wei\u00adter\u00adle\u00adsen&nbsp;\u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":44585,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,11],"tags":[1667,1376,1218,1438],"class_list":["post-47288","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-aktuelles","category-news","tag-amd-ryzen-3000","tag-pcie-4-0","tag-x370","tag-x470","entry"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47288","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=47288"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47288\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":47303,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47288\/revisions\/47303"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=47288"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=47288"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=47288"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}