{"id":48837,"date":"2019-07-19T03:17:48","date_gmt":"2019-07-19T01:17:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/?p=48837"},"modified":"2019-07-19T13:52:35","modified_gmt":"2019-07-19T11:52:35","slug":"ryzen-3000-zu-hohe-idle-spannung-wegen-energiesparplan-amd-ryzen-balanced","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48837-ryzen-3000-zu-hohe-idle-spannung-wegen-energiesparplan-amd-ryzen-balanced\/","title":{"rendered":"Ryzen 3000: Zu hohe Idle-Spannung wegen dem Energiesparplan \u201c<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen balanced\u201d?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mit einem <a href=\"https:\/\/www.feedback.amd.com\/se\/5A1E27D26FC79EE8\">eng\u00adlisch\u00adspra\u00adchi\u00adgen Feed\u00adback-For\u00admu\u00adlar<\/a> ver\u00adsucht <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> einem merk\u00adw\u00fcr\u00addi\u00adgen Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor\u00adver\u00adhal\u00adten von Ryzen 3000 mit zu hoher Idle-Span\u00adnung auf die Spur zu kom\u00admen (wir <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48750-amd-sucht-feedback-bei-zu-hoher-idle-spannung-von-ryzen-3000-prozessoren\/\">berich\u00adte\u00adten<\/a>). Auf <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Amd\/comments\/cbls9g\/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">red\u00addit<\/a> hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> jetzt als vor\u00adl\u00e4u\u00adfi\u00adgen Work\u00adaround emp\u00adfoh\u00adlen auf den Win\u00addows-eige\u00adnen Ener\u00adgie\u00adspar\u00adplan \u201cAus\u00adba\u00adlan\u00adciert\u201d zu wech\u00adseln und bestimm\u00adte Para\u00adme\u00adter per Hand zu \u00e4ndern.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_48838\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48838\" style=\"width: 820px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/energiesparplan_windows.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-48838\" src=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/energiesparplan_windows.png\" alt width=\"820\" height=\"464\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/energiesparplan_windows.png 820w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/energiesparplan_windows-300x170.png 300w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/energiesparplan_windows-768x435.png 768w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/energiesparplan_windows-624x353.png 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 820px) 100vw, 820px\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48838\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aus\u00adwahl Ener\u00adgie\u00adspar\u00adplan Win\u00addows&nbsp;10<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><strong>Windows Energiesparpl\u00e4ne<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Der Ener\u00adgie\u00adspar\u00adplan \u201c<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen Balan\u00adced\u201d wird mit dem aktu\u00adel\u00adlen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48292-amd-chipsatz-treiber-adrenalin-edition-1-7-7-0725\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chip\u00adsatz\u00adtrei\u00adber<\/a> instal\u00adliert und kann unter Sys\u00adtem\u00adsteue\u00adrung -&gt; Hard\u00adware und Sound -&gt; Ener\u00adgie\u00adop\u00adtio\u00adnen aus\u00adge\u00adw\u00e4hlt wer\u00adden. Er erm\u00f6g\u00adlicht mit Hil\u00adfe von <span class=\"caps\">CPPC2<\/span> ein schnel\u00adle\u00adres Umschal\u00adten (ca. 1 ms) der Takt\u00adra\u00adten des Ryzen 3000 Pro\u00adzes\u00adsors. Der Win\u00addows-eige\u00adne Spar\u00adplan \u201cAus\u00adba\u00adlan\u00adciert\u201d braucht daf\u00fcr ca. 15 ms. Auf eben die\u00adsen soll man jetzt aber als tem\u00adpo\u00adr\u00e4\u00adre Ma\u00df\u00adnah\u00adme wechseln.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\"><strong class=\"_12FoOEddL7j_RgMQN0SNeU\"><span class=\"caps\">EDIT<\/span> 7\/18\/19<\/strong>As a tem\u00adpo\u00adra\u00adry work\u00adaround, you can use the stan\u00addard Win\u00addows Balan\u00adced plan. Edit this plan to use 85% mini\u00admum pro\u00adces\u00adsor sta\u00adte, 100% maxi\u00admum pro\u00adces\u00adsor sta\u00adte. (<a class=\"_3t5uN8xUmg0TOwRCOGQEcU\" href=\"https:\/\/i.imgur.com\/kgjdgpV.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Exam\u00adp\u00adle<\/a>). This will chill things out as we con\u00adti\u00adnue to work this issue. Your <span class=\"caps\">1T<\/span> and nT scores should\u00adn\u2019t chan\u00adge at all (+\/- the usu\u00adal run-to-run vari\u00adance). This will pre\u00adser\u00adve boost, retain cc6 core slee\u00adping, pre\u00adser\u00adve idle downclocking\/downvolting, but make the <span class=\"caps\">CPU<\/span> more rela\u00adxed about boos\u00adting under light&nbsp;loads.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">Plea\u00adse note that it is <strong class=\"_12FoOEddL7j_RgMQN0SNeU\">total\u00adly nor\u00admal<\/strong> for your Ryzen to use vol\u00adta\u00adges in a ran\u00adge of 0.<span class=\"caps\">200V<\/span> \u2014 1.<span class=\"caps\">500V<\/span> \u2014 this is the fac\u00adto\u00adry ope\u00adra\u00adting ran\u00adge of the <span class=\"caps\">CPU<\/span>. It is also <strong class=\"_12FoOEddL7j_RgMQN0SNeU\">total\u00adly nor\u00admal<\/strong> for the tem\u00adpe\u00adra\u00adtu\u00adre to cycle through 10\u00b0C swings as boost comes on and off. You will always see the\u00adse cha\u00adrac\u00adte\u00adristics, as they\u2019\u00adre inten\u00added, so do not be sur\u00adpri\u00adsed to see such values.&nbsp;\ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">Plea\u00adse do not under\u00advolt the chip or set a maxi\u00admum pro\u00adces\u00adsor sta\u00adte of 99%. The\u00adse are inef\u00adfec\u00adti\u00adve and\/or detri\u00admen\u00adtal changes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"_1qeIAgB0cPwnLhDF9XSiJM\">We app\u00adre\u00adcia\u00adte the reports ever\u00adyo\u00adne has pro\u00advi\u00added, and they are hel\u00adpful. I will make an all-new post when I have a more com\u00adpre\u00adhen\u00adsi\u00adve update to share. Thanks for your patience.&nbsp;\u2665<\/p>\n<p>Quel\u00adle: Robert Hal\u00adlo\u00adck <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> auf <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Amd\/comments\/cbls9g\/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">red\u00addit<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nach\u00addem der aus\u00adba\u00adlan\u00adcier\u00adte Ener\u00adgie\u00adplan aus\u00adge\u00adw\u00e4hlt wor\u00adden ist, soll zus\u00e4tz\u00adlich noch in den Ener\u00adgie\u00adspar\u00adplan\u00adein\u00adstel\u00adlun\u00adgen der \u201cMini\u00adma\u00adle Leis\u00adtungs\u00adzu\u00adstand des Pro\u00adzes\u00adsors\u201d auf die Ein\u00adstel\u00adlung 85% gesetzt werden.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_48839\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48839\" style=\"width: 404px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/minimum_processor_state.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-48839\" src=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/minimum_processor_state.png\" alt width=\"404\" height=\"442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/minimum_processor_state.png 404w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/minimum_processor_state-274x300.png 274w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 404px) 100vw, 404px\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48839\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Set\u00adzen des Mini\u00adma\u00adlen Leis\u00adtungs\u00adzu\u00adstand des Prozessors<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><strong>Ryzen 3000 nutzt&nbsp;<span class=\"caps\">CPPC2<\/span><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Mit Ryzen 3000 hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> eini\u00adge Funk\u00adtio\u00adnen des Pro\u00adzes\u00adsors gera\u00adde beim Ver\u00adhal\u00adten in Last- und Idle\u00adzu\u00adst\u00e4n\u00adden ge\u00e4n\u00addert. Mit dem <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/47396-zen-2-amd-ryzen-7-3700x-und-ryzen-9-3900x-im-test\/3\/#CPPC2\">UEFI-Fea\u00adture \u201cCol\u00adla\u00adbo\u00adra\u00adti\u00adve Power and Per\u00adfor\u00admance Con\u00adtrol \u201d (<span class=\"caps\">CPPC2<\/span>)<\/a> wird nun die Fre\u00adquenz in Abh\u00e4n\u00adgig\u00adkeit von der Last wesent\u00adlich schnel\u00adler als fr\u00fc\u00adher \u00fcber P\u2011States gesteu\u00adert und dies scheint in eini\u00adgen F\u00e4l\u00adlen Pro\u00adble\u00adme zu bereiten.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Verhalten auch bei Ryzen 1000 und&nbsp;2000?<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Auch wenn <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> die\u00adses Ver\u00adhal\u00adten vor allem auf den Ryzen 3000 bezieht, stellt sich uns aber die Fra\u00adge, ob dies nicht auch auf den bei\u00adden ers\u00adten Gene\u00adra\u00adtio\u00adnen Ryzen zu Tage tritt. Auf einem Ryzen 5 <span class=\"caps\">1600X<\/span> fiel uns auf, das der Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor mit dem \u201c<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen Balanced\u201d-Energiesparplan auch kaum her\u00adun\u00adter\u00adtak\u00adte\u00adte und fast aus\u00adschlie\u00df\u00adlich mit einer Kern\u00adspan\u00adnung von 1,3 Volt&nbsp;lief.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_48842\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48842\" style=\"width: 625px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-48842 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan-1024x319.png\" alt width=\"625\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan-1024x319.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan-300x93.png 300w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan-768x239.png 768w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan-624x194.png 624w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/ryzen_balanded_powerplan.png 1382w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48842\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Unter\u00adschied Ener\u00adgie\u00adspar\u00adpl\u00e4\u00adne \u201c<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen Balan\u00adced\u201d zu \u201cWin\u00addows aus\u00adba\u00adlan\u00adciert\u201d mit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48648-system-information-viewer-version-5-40\/\">Sys\u00adtem Infor\u00adma\u00adti\u00adon Viewer<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Auf die\u00adsem Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor \u00e4nder\u00adte auch die Ener\u00adgie\u00adplan-Ein\u00adstel\u00adlung des \u201cMini\u00adma\u00adlen Leis\u00adtungs\u00adzu\u00adstands des Pro\u00adzes\u00adsors\u201d auf 85% (vor\u00adher 5%) das Ver\u00adhal\u00adten radi\u00adkal. Frag\u00adlich ist hier aber, ob die ver\u00adschie\u00adde\u00adnen Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor\u00adge\u00adne\u00adra\u00adtio\u00adnen auf die Ein\u00adstel\u00adlung gleich reagie\u00adren oder ob <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> die Ein\u00adstel\u00adlung mit 85% f\u00fcr eine opti\u00adma\u00adle Aus\u00adnut\u00adzung des Boost\u00adver\u00adhal\u00adtens beim Ryzen 3000 ben\u00f6tigt.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_48843\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48843\" style=\"width: 625px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-48843\" src=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan-1024x319.png\" alt width=\"625\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan-1024x319.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan-300x94.png 300w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan-768x240.png 768w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan-624x195.png 624w, https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/windows_balanced_powerplan.png 1388w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48843\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cWin\u00addows aus\u00adba\u00adlan\u00adciert\u201d mit 85% Mini\u00adma\u00adler Leis\u00adtungs\u00adzu\u00adstand des Pro\u00adzes\u00adsors mit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48648-system-information-viewer-version-5-40\/\">Sys\u00adtem Infor\u00adma\u00adti\u00adon Viewer<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Es emp\u00adfiehlt sich auf jeden Fall, die Ener\u00adgie\u00adplan-Ein\u00adstel\u00adlun\u00adgen des eige\u00adnen PCs ein\u00admal unter die Lupe zu nehmen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mit einem <a href=\"https:\/\/www.feedback.amd.com\/se\/5A1E27D26FC79EE8\">eng\u00adlisch\u00adspra\u00adchi\u00adgen Feed\u00adback-For\u00admu\u00adlar<\/a> ver\u00adsucht <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> einem merk\u00adw\u00fcr\u00addi\u00adgen Pro\u00adzes\u00adsor\u00adver\u00adhal\u00adten von Ryzen 3000 mit zu hoher Idle-Span\u00adnung auf die Spur zu kom\u00admen (wir <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48750-amd-sucht-feedback-bei-zu-hoher-idle-spannung-von-ryzen-3000-prozessoren\/\">berich\u00adte\u00adten<\/a>). Auf <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/Amd\/comments\/cbls9g\/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">red\u00addit<\/a> hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> jetzt als vor\u00adl\u00e4u\u00adfi\u00adgen Work\u00adaround emp\u00adfoh\u00adlen auf den Win\u00addows-eige\u00adnen Ener\u00adgie\u00adspar\u00adplan \u201cAus\u00adba\u00adlan\u00adciert\u201d zu wech\u00adseln und bestimm\u00adte Para\u00adme\u00adter per Hand zu \u00e4ndern. (\u2026) <a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/48837-ryzen-3000-zu-hohe-idle-spannung-wegen-energiesparplan-amd-ryzen-balanced\/\">Wei\u00adter\u00adle\u00adsen&nbsp;\u00bb<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":593,"featured_media":29295,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[966,1994,1444],"class_list":["post-48837","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-aktuelles","tag-amd","tag-cppc2","tag-ryzen-3000","entry"],"share_on_mastodon":{"url":"","error":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48837","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/593"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=48837"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48837\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":48883,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48837\/revisions\/48883"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/29295"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=48837"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=48837"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=48837"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}