{"id":56005,"date":"2020-05-19T17:13:08","date_gmt":"2020-05-19T15:13:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/?p=56005"},"modified":"2020-11-20T11:07:30","modified_gmt":"2020-11-20T10:07:30","slug":"amd-rudert-zurueck-zen-3-doch-auch-auf-aelteren-mainboards","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/56005-amd-rudert-zurueck-zen-3-doch-auch-auf-aelteren-mainboards\/","title":{"rendered":"<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> rudert zur\u00fcck: Zen 3 doch auch auf \u00e4lteren Mainboards"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bei der Ank\u00fcn\u00addi\u00adgung des <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planet3dnow.de\/cms\/55862-amd-stellt-ryzen-3-3100-und-ryzen-3-3300x-vor-b550-chipsatz-ab-juni\/\">kom\u00admen\u00adden B550-Chip\u00adsat\u00adzes<\/a> hat\u00adte <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> ver\u00adlau\u00adten las\u00adsen, Zen-3-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren nur noch mit Chip\u00ads\u00e4t\u00adzen ab Serie 500 zu unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzen. Dies hat wohl zu eini\u00adger Auf\u00adre\u00adgung gef\u00fchrt, da <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> ja beim Sockel <span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span> blei\u00adben wird und damit zumin\u00addest phy\u00adsisch nichts dage\u00adgen spre\u00adchen soll\u00adte, Zen 3 zu nutzen.<\/p>\n<p>Nun hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> wohl auf den \u00f6ffent\u00adli\u00adchen Druck reagiert und ein State\u00adment ver\u00ad\u00f6f\u00adfent\u00adlicht. Man wer\u00adde Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adler auch f\u00fcr die Seri\u00aden <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span> und <span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> mit Zen 3 BIOS-Code ver\u00adsor\u00adgen. Daf\u00fcr m\u00fcss\u00adte aller\u00addings der Sup\u00adport f\u00fcr bestehen\u00adde Ryzen-Seri\u00aden ent\u00adfernt wer\u00adden, da der BIOS-Chip nicht gen\u00fc\u00adgend Kapa\u00adzi\u00adt\u00e4t hat, um alle Zen-Gene\u00adra\u00adtio\u00adnen zu unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzen. Daher soll ein ent\u00adspre\u00adchen\u00addes <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> nicht frei ver\u00adf\u00fcg\u00adbar sein, son\u00addern nur an Kun\u00adden her\u00adaus\u00adge\u00adge\u00adben wer\u00adden, die nach\u00adwei\u00adsen k\u00f6n\u00adnen, dass sie einen Zen 3 auf einem <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span>\/<span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> ein\u00adset\u00adzen wol\u00adlen, damit sich Anwen\u00adder nicht ver\u00adse\u00adhent\u00adlich der Unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzung ihres alten Zen-Pro\u00adzes\u00adsors berauben.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As we head into our upco\u00adming \u201cZen 3\u201d archi\u00adtec\u00adtu\u00adre, the\u00adre are con\u00adsidera\u00adble tech\u00adni\u00adcal chal\u00adlenges that face a <span class=\"caps\">CPU<\/span> socket as long-lived as <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Socket <span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span>. For exam\u00adp\u00adle, we recent\u00adly announ\u00adced that we would not sup\u00adport \u201cZen 3\u201d on <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> 400 Series mother\u00adboards due to serious cons\u00adtraints in <span class=\"caps\">SPI<\/span> <span class=\"caps\">ROM<\/span> capa\u00adci\u00adties in most of the <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> 400 Series mother\u00adboards. This is not the first time a tech\u00adni\u00adcal hurd\u00adle has come up with Socket <span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span> given the lon\u00adge\u00advi\u00adty of this socket, but it is the first time our enthu\u00adsi\u00adasts have faced such a hurdle.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past week, we clo\u00adse\u00adly review\u00aded your feed\u00adback on that news: we wat\u00adched every video, read every com\u00adment and saw every Tweet. We hear that many of you hoped a lon\u00adger upgrade path. We hear your hope that <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span> and <span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> chip\u00adsets would car\u00adry you into the \u201cZen 3\u201d&nbsp;era.<\/p>\n<p>Our expe\u00adri\u00adence has been that lar\u00adge-sca\u00adle <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> upgrades can be dif\u00adfi\u00adcult and con\u00adfu\u00adsing espe\u00adci\u00adal\u00adly as pro\u00adces\u00adsors come on and off the sup\u00adport lists. As the com\u00admu\u00adni\u00adty of Socket <span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span> cus\u00adto\u00admers has grown over the past three years, our inten\u00adti\u00adon was to take a path for\u00adward that pro\u00advi\u00addes the safest upgrade expe\u00adri\u00adence for the lar\u00adgest num\u00adber of users. Howe\u00adver, we hear you loud and clear when you tell us you would like to see <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span> or <span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> boards exten\u00added to the next gene\u00adra\u00adti\u00adon \u201cZen 3\u201d products.<\/p>\n<p>As the team weig\u00adhed your feed\u00adback against the tech\u00adni\u00adcal chal\u00adlenges we face, we deci\u00added to chan\u00adge cour\u00adse. As a result, we will enable an upgrade path for <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span> and <span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> cus\u00adto\u00admers that adds sup\u00adport for next-gen <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen\u2122 Pro\u00adces\u00adsors with the \u201cZen 3\u201d archi\u00adtec\u00adtu\u00adre. This decis\u00adi\u00adon is very fresh, but here is a first look at how the upgrade path is expec\u00adted to work for cus\u00adto\u00admers of the\u00adse motherboards.<\/p>\n<p>We will deve\u00adlop and enable our mother\u00adboard part\u00adners with the code to sup\u00adport \u201cZen 3\u201d-based pro\u00adces\u00adsors in sel\u00adect beta BIO\u00adSes for <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span> and <span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> motherboards.<br>\nThe\u00adse optio\u00adnal <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> updates will disable sup\u00adport for many exis\u00adting <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen\u2122 Desk\u00adtop Pro\u00adces\u00adsor models to make the neces\u00adsa\u00adry <span class=\"caps\">ROM<\/span> space available.<\/p>\n<p>The sel\u00adect beta BIO\u00adSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Ryzen Pro\u00adces\u00adsors with \u201cZen 3,\u201d coming later this year. Flas\u00adhing back to an older <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> ver\u00adsi\u00adon will not be supported.<\/p>\n<p>To redu\u00adce the poten\u00adti\u00adal for con\u00adfu\u00adsi\u00adon, our intent is to offer <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> down\u00adload only to veri\u00adfied cus\u00adto\u00admers of 400 Series mother\u00adboards who have purcha\u00adsed a new desk\u00adtop pro\u00adces\u00adsor with \u201cZen 3\u201d insi\u00adde. This will help us ensu\u00adre that cus\u00adto\u00admers have a boota\u00adble pro\u00adces\u00adsor on-hand after the <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> flash, mini\u00admi\u00adzing the risk a user could get caught in a no-boot situation.<br>\nTiming and avai\u00adla\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adty of the <span class=\"caps\">BIOS<\/span> updates will vary and may not imme\u00addia\u00adte\u00adly coin\u00adci\u00adde with the avai\u00adla\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adty of the first \u201cZen 3\u201d-based processors.<\/p>\n<p>This is the final pathway <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> can enable for 400 Series mother\u00adboards to add new <span class=\"caps\">CPU<\/span> sup\u00adport. <span class=\"caps\">CPU<\/span> releases bey\u00adond \u201cZen 3\u201d will requi\u00adre a newer motherboard.<br>\n<span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> con\u00adti\u00adnues to recom\u00admend that cus\u00adto\u00admers choo\u00adse an <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> 500 Series mother\u00adboard for the best per\u00adfor\u00admance and fea\u00adtures with our new&nbsp;CPUs.<\/p>\n<p>The\u00adre are still many details to iron out, but we\u2019ve alre\u00ada\u00addy star\u00adted the neces\u00adsa\u00adry plan\u00adning. As we get clo\u00adser to the launch of this upgrade path, you should expect ano\u00adther blog just like this to pro\u00advi\u00adde the remai\u00adning details and a walk\u00adth\u00adrough of the spe\u00adci\u00adfic process.<\/p>\n<p>At <span class=\"caps\">CES<\/span> 2017, <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> made a com\u00admit\u00adment: we would sup\u00adport <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> Socket <span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span> until 2020. We\u2019ve spent the next three years working very hard to ful\u00adfill that pro\u00admi\u00adse across four archi\u00adtec\u00adtures, plus pio\u00adnee\u00adring use of new tech\u00adno\u00adlo\u00adgies like chip\u00adlets and PCIe\u00ae Gen 4. Thanks to your feed\u00adback, we are now set to bring \u201cZen 3\u201d to the <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> 400 Series chip\u00adsets. We\u2019re gra\u00adteful for your pas\u00adsi\u00adon and sup\u00adport of <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span>\u2019s pro\u00adducts and technologies.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Zu h\u00f6ren ist das voll\u00adst\u00e4n\u00addi\u00adge State\u00adment bei Der&nbsp;8auer:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1063\" height=\"598\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mhVGrLJpoy8\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Nur von <span class=\"caps\">X370<\/span>, <span class=\"caps\">B350<\/span> und <span class=\"caps\">A320<\/span> ist mit kei\u00adnem Wort die&nbsp;Rede.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bei der Ank\u00fcn\u00addi\u00adgung der kom\u00admen\u00adden B550-Chip\u00adsatz hat\u00adte <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> ange\u00adk\u00fcn\u00addigt, kom\u00admen\u00adde Zen-3-Pro\u00adzes\u00adso\u00adren nur noch mit Chip\u00ads\u00e4t\u00adzen ab Serie 500 zu unter\u00adst\u00fct\u00adzen. Dies hat wohl zu eini\u00adger Auf\u00adre\u00adgung gef\u00fchrt, da <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> ja beim Sockel <span class=\"caps\">AM4<\/span> blei\u00adben wird. Nun hat <span class=\"caps\">AMD<\/span> reagiert und ein State\u00adment ver\u00ad\u00f6f\u00adfent\u00adlicht, dass man Main\u00adboard-Her\u00adstel\u00adlern auch f\u00fcr die Seri\u00aden <span class=\"caps\">B450<\/span> und <span class=\"caps\">X470<\/span> mit Zen 3 BIOS-Code ver\u00adsor\u00adgen wer\u00adde. 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